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lechwall wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:45 am Ukraine need to take advantage of this Chaos and attack with everything they've got
Quite the contrary. Ukraine should keep it slow and steady.

If this gets serious, the Russian forces are going to fold up by themselves. Why cost any more men then they need to?

All this talk of the offensive failing? Really, no one should've been expecting anything dramatic this was always going to go slower than everyone expected it's how invasions work most of the time (except when forces collapse like they did in Iraq 2003). Ukraine just needs to keep grinding Russian morale into the dust until there is no choice for them to withdraw to the internal instability at home.

Russia lost this war after they failed to take Kyiv, as I said all along. The victory condition was Moscow's control over Ukraine, when they lost this they doomed themselves to a forever war like America had in Iraq. You can't win something, with no ultimate achievable end goal. The question is how long it takes for the Russians to realize this. It eventually happens in democracies by the public getting fed up and booting out war architects. Dictatorships however, have no such mechanism except what we see is happening now.
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Just a friendly reminder Prigozhin is also not a good person. Like Putin, he would also likely continue to prosecute the war in Ukraine.
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Maybe the chaos will lead to some change assuming it doesn't I wouldn't be surprised if a government post coup from a private military company full of hardened criminals was worse than the current one.

Id like the Russian people to remember their USSR roots and rise up but that won't happen.
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Putin speech looks AI edited blurriness around his body, face etc
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Who could have predicted that heavily arming a private military group filled with ex-convicts could turn out badly.
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wjfox wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:18 am
Wow, this is definitely nowhere on my bingo card for 2023. :o
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Xyls wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:50 am Just a friendly reminder Prigozhin is also not a good person. Like Putin, he would also likely continue to prosecute the war in Ukraine.
If he suceeds then I think he will pursue a cease fire until the country is under control.
Could the monarchy make a comeback...
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wjfox wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:18 am
Wow, this is definitely nowhere on my bingo card for 2023. :o
I did not expect this although it's still too early to make predictions. So far it's just a rogue general (?) taking advantage from an undefended position.
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