Ukraine War Watch Thread

[Xyls]

My thoughts exactly. The Ukrainian counteroffensive could gain speed the longer this goes on but they can't run through these defence lines. Once they get through them though occupied territory will fall very fast.

[wjfox]

[raklian]

[weatheriscool]

[Xyls]

I should note it might be worth considering splitting discussion of this Wagner mutiny into it's own topic. While this is Ukraine war related, it's isn't actually about the Ukrainian war per se. It's becoming quite hard to get updates about what is actually going on with the Ukrainian front with all this internal Russia nonsense lol.

[weatheriscool]

[raklian]

I should note it might be worth considering splitting discussion of this Wagner mutiny into it's own topic. While this is Ukraine war related, it's isn't actually about the Ukrainian war per se. It's becoming quite hard to get updates about what is actually going on with the Ukrainian front with all this internal Russia nonsense lol.

I suggest continuing in the Russian Watch thread since it's an internal matter in Russia. Let's keep this neat.

[Xyls]

Agreed. Only thing I will be posting here going forward is related to Ukrainian advances/attacks/Russian offensives on Ukrainian soil.

[raklian]

The Ukrainians are making a big push while the Russians are distracted with their own infighting.

[weatheriscool]

[weatheriscool]

[weatheriscool]

I hope at the end of the day Ukraine takes some of Russia just to rub it in.

[funkervogt]

Most of the rebel Wagner troops are in Rostov-on-Don. That city is only about 100 miles from the frontlines. Prigozhin could attack the Russian defense lines from behind, where they are surely very vulnerable, and make his way to the safety of Ukraine. Ukraine's troops could then go through the gap.

I wonder if all the loud talk about going to Moscow is meant to distract Putin from what he's actually planning.

[caltrek]

Prigozhin Calls Off Coup
by Howard Altman, Thomas Newdick, and Tyler Rogoway
June 24 , 2023

(The Drive) Update: 2 p.m. EST

Yevgeny Prigozhin is ending his march to Moscow and returning his forces to their bases, he said in a message posted on his Telegram channels according to Russian media outlets TASS and RIA Novosti.

“Realizing all the responsibility for the fact that Russian blood will be shed on one of the sides, we turn our columns around and leave in the opposite direction to the field camps according to the plan,” he said, according to TASS.

Prigozhin’s change of heart, which came after his forces were fired upon during their move to Moscow, was brokered by Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, according to his press service.

After being briefed by Putin, Lukashenko entered negotiations with Prigozhin, according to Lukashenko’s press service.

“Negotiations continued throughout the day. As a result, they came to agreements on the inadmissibility of unleashing a bloody massacre on the territory of Russia. Yevgeny Prigozhin accepted the proposal of President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko to stop the movement of armed persons of the Wagner company in Russia and take further steps to de-escalate tensions.”

Read more here: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ ... -day-two

Edit: The Russia Watch thread also contains updates and discussion of this canceled coup situation.

[firestar464]

Visegrad be using the wrong map

[raklian]

It looks like Ukrainians are trying to divide and thin out the Russian forces by creating a new front.

[weatheriscool]

[raklian]

[weatheriscool]

UN documents summary execution of 77 Ukrainian civilians
Source: Al Jazeera

A United Nations mission in Ukraine has expressed grave concern over the summary execution of more than 70 Ukrainian civilians by Russian forces while also documenting other breaches of international law by both warring sides.

The UN Human Rights Monitoring Mission in Ukraine (HRMMU) on Tuesday released its findings gathered between the start of Russia’s full-scale invasion of its neighbouring country in February last year to May of this year.

“OHCHR is gravely concerned by the summary execution of 77 civilians – 72 men and 5 women – while they were arbitrarily detained by the Russian Federation, and the further death of one detainee (a man) as a result of torture, inhumane detention conditions and/or denial of necessary medical care,” read the report, referring to the UN’s Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights.

The UN agency also documented 864 cases of arbitrary detention by Russian troops, many of which also amounted to enforced disappearances.

Read more: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/2 ... -civilians

[weatheriscool]