Israel's conflict with its neighbours

[Cyber_Rebel]

Unironically getting some real "are we the baddies" vibes right now. The Israeli PM utilizing religion as an excuse for further war is the oldest tale in the playbook, and now I'd truly have to say they are making the exact same ill-advised response as America did after 9/11.

It is not antisemitic to oppose a far-right wing reactionary state for the same reasoning it isn't anti-Slavic to not support Russia.

[firestar464]

That site seems to be a Russian propaganda site masquerading as a news source (not sure why they're listed as a plywood company? linkedin lists them correctly as a news company so maybe just an error on the part of the site?
https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/ ... e5074.html)

Anyway the tweet in the article shows a clip from Sky News, which shouldn't be unreliable though

[erowind]

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[raklian]

I sincerely hope for a peaceful resolution to this war.

Given what has happened so far, I don't see how, at least not in the foreseeable future. It seems Israel is really set on eliminating every Hamas official and soldier within the perimeter of Gaza from the face of the Earth, rationalizing that this is the bare minimum needed to solve the Hamas quagmire for good, with powerful allies in the U.S. and Europe giving it a huge wind behind its back.

[weatheriscool]

[weatheriscool]

What is Israel's goal? It is either to drive the otherside into the sea with either the complete genocide of the people or transporting the people to another country adding the land to israel or secondly they could kill off hamas and possibly take in the people hopefully granting them rights as citizens of israel or thirdly maybe they could create a new state for these people with a puppet Israel ran government. What choice will they choose?

If I was the prime minister of Israel I'd choose the second one.
1. Take the land
2. Grant the people citizenship as citizens of Israel.
3. Set up a reeducation program to bring these people into their new reality. Give them a solid education and make them upstanding citizens. WE all know we have to break the brainwashing that been done to this population from Hamas so I am not going to sugar coat it.


This means Israel is going to have to take the economic and other realities up the ass but that is better then dealing with hamas and the current crap for the next thousand of years.

[wjfox]

[raklian]

The problem is no one knows the solution to this crisis, or the larger Israeli-Hamas conflict, that stops this civilian carnage in its tracks. At this point, Israeli is merely taking the initiative because they have the means to do so. The Hamas are responding with all they have. They don't trust each other to even start a ceasefire.

[firestar464]

What is Israel's goal? It is either to drive the otherside into the sea with either the complete genocide of the people or transporting the people to another country adding the land to israel or secondly they could kill off hamas and possibly take in the people hopefully granting them rights as citizens of israel or thirdly maybe they could create a new state for these people with a puppet Israel ran government. What choice will they choose?

If I was the prime minister of Israel I'd choose the second one.
1. Take the land
2. Grant the people citizenship as citizens of Israel.
3. Set up a reeducation program to bring these people into their new reality. Give them a solid education and make them upstanding citizens. WE all know we have to break the brainwashing that been done to this population from Hamas so I am not going to sugar coat it.


This means Israel is going to have to take the economic and other realities up the ass but that is better then dealing with hamas and the current crap for the next thousand of years.

I don't think this is what you intended but your use of the word "reeducation" gives PR China vibes

[weatheriscool]

[weatheriscool]

[weatheriscool]

I believe that leaving gaza as a city state in isolation after this is cruel and evil. Israel must nix it and grant citizenship and all the rights that come to it to the people.

[wjfox]

Gaza reporter removes protective vest after learning of colleague's death

3 hours ago

A Palestine TV news anchor and a reporter broke down on air after learning their colleague was killed in an explosion in Gaza.

Mohammad Abu Hatab, a reporter for Palestine TV, died with members of his family in an Israeli strike on his home in Khan Younis, the broadcaster said.

Colleague Salman Al-Bashir learned about the killing while reporting live from outside Nasser Hospital.

"These shields and these helmets will not protect us, they are just slogans that we wear," he said, removing his protective gear.

At least 27 Palestinian journalists have been killed in Gaza, according to the Palestinian journalists' union, since the Israel-Gaza war began.

When questioned about Mohammad Abu Hatab's death, Israel's military said it does not target journalists.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-67314396

[Yuli Ban]

[caltrek]

Dozens of Reporters Have Been Killed Covering the Israel-Hamas War. A Press Freedom Group Is Calling for a War Crimes Investigation.
by Julianne McShane
November 3, 2023

Introduction:

(Mother Jones) The press freedom group Reporters Without Borders is requesting that the International Criminal Court (ICC) investigate the killings and woundings of journalists covering the Israel-Hamas war.

The group, also known as Reporters Sans Frontières (RSF), filed the complaint with the ICC on Tuesday, focusing on the deaths of 9 journalists killed since the start of the war: eight Palestinian journalists killed in Israeli bombardments of civilian areas in Gaza, and an Israel journalist killed while covering the October 7 attack by Hamas on his kibbutz. RSF says the killings of the Palestinian journalists fit “the international humanitarian law definition of an indiscriminate attack and therefore constitute war crimes” and that the killing of the Israeli journalist “constituted the willful killing of a person protected by the Geneva Conventions.” RSF also asked the ICC to look into the destruction of more than 50 media outlets in Gaza.

“The scale, seriousness, and recurring nature of international crimes targeting journalists, particularly in Gaza, calls for a priority investigation by the ICC prosecutor,” RSF Secretary General Christophe Deloire said in a statement.

The request comes as the scale of death to journalists has become clear. Another press freedom group, the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) said today that at least 36 journalists and media workers have been among those killed since Oct. 7, and that the war led to the deadliest period for journalists since the group began tracking their deaths in 1992.

According to the CPJ, 31 of those journalists killed were Palestinian, four were Israeli and one was Lebanese. Another eight journalists have been reported injured, eight more arrested and another three are missing, the CPJ said in its news release, adding that the group is looking into other unconfirmed reports of journalists killed, missing, detained, injured, or threatened. The RSF is also calling on the ICC to investigate all deaths of journalists killed since Oct. 7.

Read more of the Motbher Jones article here: https://www.motherjones.com/media/2023 ... n-gaza/

For a report from the Committee to Protect Journalists: https://cpj.org/2023/11/attacks-arrest ... amas-war/

[wjfox]

[caltrek]

How Hamas Innovated with Drones to Operate Like an Army
by Kerry Chávez and Ori Swed
November 1, 2023

Introduction:

(Bulletin of Atomic Scientists) Hamas’ recent attacks on Israel have shocked many with their brutality and disregard for the norms and laws of armed conflict. They have also surprised experts with their complexity and coordination, involving simultaneous linked and layered operations on land, air, and sea. While Hamas is a terrorist organization—and behaving like one—it is fighting more like a state military force.

Small, tactical drones are a central factor in its proficiency, which the group deployed in sophisticated and multifaceted ways during the invasion. Unmanned aerial systems (UAS) constituted the first wave of attacks to eliminate Israeli observation towers, cameras, and communications. This initial challenge was meant to blind, deafen, and confuse the Israeli defense.

The group also dropped munitions from UAS on tanks, apparently well aware of how to target them for disabling, as well as soldiers and emergency responders. Swarms of drones were also deployed to attack naval vessels and energy infrastructure.

Alongside thousands of rockets, the group launched volleys of a new loitering munition—also known as a suicide drone—called the Zouari, named after the late Hamas engineer and drone pilot, Mohammed Zouari. Tactical armed drones were captured from felled raiding units that stormed across the border. Palestinian Islamic Jihad, one of Hamas’ key partners in the region, even seems to be running a devoted drone operations room. Since the attacks began, from near and far, drones have been crucial for achieving strategic and tactical objectives.

None of these individual tactics with small drones are new. While many are citing lessons learned from combat in the Russia-Ukraine War—and they should—there are ample, earlier precedents from violent non-state actors

Read more here: https://thebulletin.org/2023/11/how-h ... t-heading

[weatheriscool]

Gaza death toll passes 10,000, health officials say; Blinken says more aid coming soon

Source: WaPo

The Gaza Health Ministry said the death toll in the enclave surpassed 10,000 after four weeks of war with Israel. The updated figure was released after another night of intense strikes on Gaza during a communications blackout. The Biden administration expects more humanitarian aid to begin flowing into Gaza within days, Secretary of State Antony Blinken said during a news briefing in Ankara, Turkey, on Monday as he wraps up a whirlwind tour of the Middle East, his second since the Israel-Gaza war broke out. Blinken also said he was optimistic that there would soon be movement on U.S. efforts to push Israel to implement “humanitarian pauses” in Gaza, though Israel has so far refused to agree to them.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... palestine/

[wjfox]

[caltrek]

A Record Number of U.N. Aid Workers Have Been Killed in the Israel-Hamas War
by Julianne McShane
November 6, 2023

Introduction:

(Mother Jones) A record number of United Nations aid workers have been killed in the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas, according to information released yesterday.

Eighty-eight people employed by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East—tasked with providing essential services for Palestinian refugees—have been killed since Oct. 7, marking “the highest number of United Nations fatalities ever recorded in a single conflict,” according to a statement issued by the Inter-Agency Standing Committee, which coordinates humanitarian relief efforts between the U.N. and external partners.

The statement, signed by 18 executives within and outside of the U.N., calls for “an immediate humanitarian ceasefire.”

“It’s been 30 days. Enough is enough,” it says. “This must stop now.”

The latest death toll of aid workers in Palestinian territories marks a major increase compared to in years past: 38 aid workers total were killed in occupied Palestinian territories over the past two decades, according to an alert issued last month by Aid Worker Security Database, a project funded by the U.S. government.

Read more here: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2 ... -killed/