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Okay, I'm usually the wide-eyed optimist when it comes to AI on this forum, but... I kind of doubt these claims, no offense to Blake Lemoine on a personal level. If Google had something like this then what would be the point of Gemini? Someone should've asked him that question, because it shouldn't be too difficult to release a weaker version of whatever he's describing either. Don't even get me started on Bard.
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And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future
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And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future
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Cyber_Rebel wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:31 am Guess who's back!

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Okay, I'm usually the wide-eyed optimist when it comes to AI on this forum, but... I kind of doubt these claims, no offense to Blake Lemoine on a personal level. If Google had something like this then what would be the point of Gemini? Someone should've asked him that question, because it shouldn't be too difficult to release a weaker version of whatever he's describing either. Don't even get me started on Bard.
IMHO at least we know that he isn't holding these beliefs because "it talks!" You also raise good points though
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firestar464 wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 6:11 pm
IMHO at least we know that he isn't holding these beliefs because "it talks!" You also raise good points though
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Google Gemini has just been released and is likely the new closest AI to AGI

its nearly 3am where I live so I am not going to look into it I am sure details will be summarized soon.


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First supercomputer capable of equaling the synaptic operations of the human brain being built
The neuromorphic supercomputer will manage 228 trillion synaptic operations per second, which is on par with the estimated number of operations in the human brain.

The world's first supercomputer capable of simulating networks at the scale of the human brain has been announced by researchers at the International Centre for Neuromorphic Systems (ICNS) at Western Sydney University.

DeepSouth uses a neuromorphic system which mimics biological processes, using hardware to efficiently emulate large networks of spiking neurons at 228 trillion synaptic operations per second - rivalling the estimated rate of operations in the human brain.

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This platform will progress our understanding of the brain and develop brain-scale computing applications in diverse fields including sensing, biomedical, robotics, space, and large-scale AI applications.”

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The supercomputer is aptly named DeepSouth, paying homage to IBM's TrueNorth system, which initiated efforts to build machines simulating large networks of spiking neurons, and Deep Blue, which was the first computer to become a world chess champion. The name is also a nod to its geographical location.
more here: https://www.westernsydney.edu.au/newsce ... university
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weatheriscool wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:33 pm
First supercomputer capable of equaling the synaptic operations of the human brain being built
The neuromorphic supercomputer will manage 228 trillion synaptic operations per second, which is on par with the estimated number of operations in the human brain.

The world's first supercomputer capable of simulating networks at the scale of the human brain has been announced by researchers at the International Centre for Neuromorphic Systems (ICNS) at Western Sydney University.

DeepSouth uses a neuromorphic system which mimics biological processes, using hardware to efficiently emulate large networks of spiking neurons at 228 trillion synaptic operations per second - rivalling the estimated rate of operations in the human brain.

-snip

This platform will progress our understanding of the brain and develop brain-scale computing applications in diverse fields including sensing, biomedical, robotics, space, and large-scale AI applications.”

-snip-

The supercomputer is aptly named DeepSouth, paying homage to IBM's TrueNorth system, which initiated efforts to build machines simulating large networks of spiking neurons, and Deep Blue, which was the first computer to become a world chess champion. The name is also a nod to its geographical location.
more here: https://www.westernsydney.edu.au/newsce ... university
This is slightly overhyped (I'll be doing a blog on it), but a decent advance in neuromorphic computing. True "brain-scale" is probably 2025-26.
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This might be the truth:

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For the most part A.i is at the same level as VR. It is about 20-30 years too early and needs toto gain a few elements so it can consider and form opinions within its own "mind" and control its self within a rational way. Until that day it won't be too useful and sure as hell won't be a tool that can move society ahead like something with 200, 300 or 1000 iq would be expected too be capable of.
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I agree.

I asked ChatGPT 10 questions and it responded with wrong answers to all of them. Turns out it's not useful to me at the moment.
I also consider search more important than generating "new" content from all the learned human content.

Google search works much worse than it did. I even have screenshots to compare how Google worked in the past and how it works today. I screenshoted in order to see how large of an improvement Google would do in the next few years. Instead of improving, they are making it worse and worse every year. Stuff that I could easily find is completely gone from results or very very far and difficult to see. I know, because I have a notepad with links. Sorry to write this. It's not what I expected, it's not what I've been waiting for. I'm very disappointed. I think that many digital things are just overhyped, overmarketed and not as good or useful as some think or want others to think. Microsoft Edge even underlines 'ChatGPT' with red, like it was a non-existing word... 😣

As of now, I consider VR, MR, AR & AI as completely unworthy of my time. There is still other stuff to do.
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Tadasuke wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:31 am
I asked ChatGPT
Which version? If you're still on 3.5, maybe it's time to upgrade... ;)
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weatheriscool wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:38 pm For the most part A.i is at the same level as VR. It is about 20-30 years too early and needs toto gain a few elements so it can consider and form opinions within its own "mind" and control its self within a rational way. Until that day it won't be too useful and sure as hell won't be a tool that can move society ahead like something with 200, 300 or 1000 iq would be expected too be capable of.
I agree that AGI is 20-30 years away. However, I strongly disagree with your second claim that the narrow AIs we will have between now and then "won't be too useful and sure as hell won't be a tool that can move society ahead like something with 200, 300 or 1000 iq would be expected too be capable of."

LLMs are already better than most humans at a variety of tasks, and could become substantially better with mere tweaks to existing programming, more training data, and faster chips to run on. The random order in which human skills are being overtaken by machines (medical image interpretation, legal research, speechwriting, artistic drawing) is striking and shows how the job market is being rapidly altered in weird ways that affect people at nearly every level. The whole job market could get rocked by narrow AIs over just the next 10 years.

It's also easy to envision narrow AI being sufficient to create military drones that can fight with the same or better skill as humans. Having your nation's potential military strength no longer handicapped by the size of your young male population would revolutionize warfare. A small country not known for its fighting skill but rich with money like Qatar could suddenly become a military power.
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Not so certain I'd compare AI to VR regardless of timelines. AI is not just a different monitor or new "interface" competing with TVs and monitors, it's a whole lot more general in the domains where it affects, be it programming, automation, knowledge use cases, entertainment, etc.

Even when it comes to GPT-4, I think a lot of people are becoming complacent thinking that it's the pinnacle of the field rather than the beginnings. The internet back in the AOL days when we were still trying to figure out how to best use it is a good analogy.

Also, worth noting that seemingly only a small portion of people even have a Chat GPT plus subscription: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https% ... 2ae19a4472

0.1% Before subscriptions reopened, which means only a small amount are being exposed to the current SOTA the public currently has access to. I'm curious how perceptions would change if the full GPT-4V model were actually the free standard one.
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AI companies will need to start reporting their safety tests to the US government

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January 29, 2024, 5:01 AM


WASHINGTON -- The Biden administration will start implementing a new requirement for the developers of major artificial intelligence systems to disclose their safety test results to the government.

The White House AI Council is scheduled to meet Monday to review progress made on the executive order that President Joe Biden signed three months ago to manage the fast-evolving technology. Chief among the 90-day goals from the order was a mandate under the Defense Production Act that AI companies share vital information with the Commerce Department, including safety tests.

Ben Buchanan, the White House special adviser on AI, said in an interview that the government wants "to know AI systems are safe before they’re released to the public — the president has been very clear that companies need to meet that bar.”

The software companies are committed to a set of categories for the safety tests, but companies do not yet have to comply with a common standard on the tests. The government's National Institute of Standards and Technology will develop a uniform framework for assessing safety, as part of the order Biden signed in October.
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