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Haley gets endorsement from Gov. Chris Sununu ahead of pivotal New Hampshire primary

Source: Associated Press
MANCHESTER, N.H. (AP) — New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu endorsed Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley on Tuesday, six weeks before the state’s pivotal first-in-the-nation primary.

Sununu appeared with Haley during a campaign town hall at a ski area in Manchester, where he said she has shown she understands the values Republicans associate with the state’s “Live Free or Die” motto, including low taxes, limited government and local control.

“This is an opportunity for New Hampshire to lead this country, for New Hampshire to say we’re not looking in the rearview mirror anymore,” Sununu said.

His message for Donald Trump: “Thank you for your service, Mr. President, we’re moving on. This is New Hampshire, and we go forward.”
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How Leonard Leo’s Dark Money Network Orchestrated a New Attack on the Voting Rights Act
by Ari Berman
December 18, 2023

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(Mother Jones) On November 20, a three-judge panel on the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that private plaintiffs could not bring lawsuits to enforce Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act, the key remaining provision of the landmark civil rights law, which prohibits voting practices and procedures that discriminate against voters of color. “The statute is silent on the existence of a private right of action,” wrote Judge David Stras of Minnesota, who was appointed by Donald Trump. Stras’ opinion represented the latest salvo against voting rights by the dark-money network linked to Federalist Society co-chair Leonard Leo.

The 8th Circuit’s decision applies only to states under its jurisdiction—Arkansas, Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, and South Dakota—but if adopted nationwide it would strike a near-fatal blow against the Voting Rights Act. The opinion said that only the US Attorney General could bring lawsuits to enforce Section 2, but the vast majority of such cases are brought by private plaintiffs, typically individual voters represented by voting rights groups. As Judge Lavenski Smith, an appointee of George W. Bush who is the only Black judge on the 8th Circuit, noted in his dissent, of the 182 successful Section 2 cases over the past 40 years, only 15 were brought solely by the attorney general. If voting rights litigation were dependent on the Justice Department, it would slow to a trickle—or, under a hostile administration, to a halt.

“The panel’s decision threatens to make the promise of the Voting Rights Act hollow,” says Sophia Lin Lakin, director of the ACLU’s Voting Rights Project. Voting rights groups recently filed a new motion asking the full 8th Circuit to rehear the case and overrule the holding of the three-judge panel.

Stras’ opinion was joined by Raymond Gruender, a George W. Bush appointee from Missouri. Both judges are longtime members of the Federalist Society who appeared on a short list of possible Supreme Court justices that Leo prepared for Donald Trump in the spring of 2016. Trump touted the list to solidify his standing with skeptical conservative voters, which helped him clinch the GOP nomination and win the presidency.
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No Labels Is Pushing a Lie That Will Elect Trump
by Jim Messina
December 18, 2023

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(Politico) With a rematch between President Joe Biden and Donald Trump almost set in stone, it’s time to put a farce to rest: The notion that a third-party candidate could actually win the presidency in 2024.

The idea that a “unity ticket” featuring a Republican and a Democrat could somehow produce a nominee with “a clear path to victory” is worse than a political fiction. The group behind it, No Labels, is pushing a dangerous lie that would simply serve to put Trump back in the White House.

How can I be so certain? Look at the last half-century of election results. In modern U.S. presidential history, third parties have not won much. In 1968, George Wallace won 46 electoral votes by running a regionally-targeted (and racist) campaign. Since then, they’ve won zilch — not a single state. Not Gary Johnson or Jill Stein in 2016, and not Ralph Nader in 2000. None of them broke 5 percent of the vote.

Then there’s Ross Perot, who No Labels aspires to emulate for his appeal to “the vast middle of the electorate.” Despite unlimited cash and facing an unpopular incumbent in George H.W. Bush and a near-unknown in Bill Clinton, Perot failed to win a single state. Can No Labels twist the data and make an argument that Perot could have won if he had done things differently? Sure! But that’s like saying I could have been the quarterback of the Denver Broncos — technically true, but come on!

There’s a reason for this lack of success: Our political system isn’t designed to support third parties at the presidential level.
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Ramaswamy pledges to ‘withdraw’ from Colorado ballot amid Trump removal (The Hill)
Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy pledged to withdraw from the GOP primary ballot in Colorado following a ruling Tuesday from the state’s Supreme Court to remove former President Trump from the ballot over his role in the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack.

Colorado’s highest court kicked Trump off the state’s Republican primary ballot under the 14th Amendment’s “insurrection clause” in a 4-3 ruling. ...
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IA: Trump +47, Biden +64 (Emerson)
Haley 2nd place

Trump 62
Haley 17
Ron 15
Vivek 8

Biden 69
Williamson 5
Phillips 1

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^^^Assuming the U.S. Supreme Court does not overturn the Colorado Supreme Court decision, I can see this resulting in a credentials fight at the GOP convention. A fight that Trump forces are likely to win. This would be a rather messy way of proceeding, which never leaves a good impression on voters.
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Until now, this has largely been an argument between Republicans. In Colorado, it was Republicans that brought forward the suit to remove Trump, while the dissenting justices who indicated that Trump should stay on the ballot were all appointed by Democrats. Democrats should continue to just stay out of the fight and let Republicans, for once, take the heat of opposing Trump. As it is, I am sure it is all going to be portrayed as being part of a vast and fiendish conspiratorial plot on the part of Biden hatched in between sessions of imbecility brought on by old age.
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Funkervogt introduced this article (see below) in mChat. Reason is more or less libertarian in orientation.

Removing Trump from the Colorado Ballot Won't Make Things Better
by Eric Boehm
December 19, 2023

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(Reason) Without knowing what the outcome of that appeal might be, there are three things worth keeping in mind about Tuesday's decision in Colorado—one practical, one philosophical, and one purely hypothetical.

First, this all seems a bit premature given that Trump has not yet been convicted of any crimes connected to the January 6 riot or his attempts to overturn the 2020 election. Yes, the former president is manifestly unfit for office, and the 14th Amendment's language is somewhat vague—but can someone be guilty of engaging in insurrection without being guilty of at least one actual crime related to it?

The Colorado Supreme Court says yes. I think we should be deeply skeptical of that logic. (Needless to say, the context here changes if Trump is convicted in either of the two election interference cases currently being brought against him.)

Second, let's assume that Trump's harshest critics are correct when they say he represents a unique threat to the future of American democracy. Even so, the idea that of booting someone off the ballot to save democracy seems like a weird argument at best—and an authoritarian one at worst.
Yes, the 14th Amendment created a constitutionally valid mechanism for removing an insurrectionist from the ballot. That doesn't mean it's a lever that judges should be eager to pull. Not when there are other, far more democratic ways to prevent dangerous, unfit candidates from becoming president (like, say, by defeating them in open, fair elections), and particularly not when the candidate in question still hasn't been convicted of anything resembling insurrection.
The final point is that Biden is likely to carry Colorado anyway. So why bother removing him?

True, but the ruling may also end up affecting the nomination process. Meaning it could boost opposition to Trump at the Republican convention, or at least result in delegates pledged to someone other than Trump.

Read more here: https://reason.com/2023/12/19/removin ... s-better/

caltrek’s comment: An interesting point I have heard is that the original intent of the Fourteenth Amendment was to exclude from the ballot those who had engaged in insurrection even if they had not been tried for doing so. It was enacted in the wake of the Civil War. So, a sort of blanket amnesty had been granted, meaning no trials for participating in an insurrection. Except that there was a desire to make sure that insurrectionists did not hold certain government offices. Hence the exclusionary language of the amendment. Of course, this is more of alegal argument as opposed to a political argument.

One of the constitutional requirements is that the president must be of a certain age. If a candidate were to come forward that was too young to hold office, would we say “let the voters decide”?

If it should be up to the voters, then why put prohibitions in the Constitution in the first place?

So, Republicans get to use dubious legalisms to suppress votes, but the Constitution is ignored when it comes to broader rules of the election?

Trump wants to use the tools of democracy to end democracy. Tools available to stop him from doing that should thus be considered. As I have said, personally, I feel more comfortable about never-Trump Republicans being the ones to employ those tools.
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Maggie Haberman Warns If SCOTUS Upholds Trump Ballot Ban 'He Will Get Kicked Off The Ballot Almost Everywhere'
By Tommy Christopher/Mediate (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA1lNl6H)
New York Times correspondent and CNN analyst Maggie Haberman told CNN anchor Kaitlan Collins that if the Supreme Court upholds the Colorado ballot ban, ex-President Donald Trump “will get kicked off the ballot almost everywhere.”

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ON THE PHONE: HABERMAN: Yes, I mean, listen, I don’t think that he wants to be — I don’t think they want the Supreme Court to uphold the decision, right?

And that is, obviously within the realm of the possible, although they don’t think that that’s the likeliest scenario, because if that happens? I mean, to Elie’s point, you’re going to see people, in other states, trying this anyway. And if the Supreme Court does that, it’s, he will get kicked off the ballot almost everywhere.

(snip)
The current benchmark is becoming the Republican nominee, and having as much money as he can. And so far, everything that has happened legally has helped him in that. That doesn’t mean that it would in a general election. But it certainly is right now.
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NH-ARG: Trump +4

Trump 33
Haley 29
Christie 13
Desantis 6

https://americanresearchgroup.com/pres2 ... nhrep.html


NH: Trump +13 (Americans for Prosperity)


"The survey [is] from Americans for Prosperity, a grassroots organization affiliated with the Koch network of political groups"

h2h

Trump 48
Haley 45

field:

Trump 45
Haley 32
Christie 9
DeSantis 6

https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/disp ... hampshire/

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