2023-2024 Presidential, senate, house, state and city election thread

[weatheriscool]

quite a few republican seats flipping based on pollling = democratic house?

[wjfox]

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The democrats almost certainly retake the house! Probably at least lean democrat.






Pa update
Democrat 35 60.3 %
Republican 19 32.8 %
None/Minor 4 6.9 %
TOTAL 58 100 %

https://election.lab.ufl.edu/early-vote ... ly-voting/

with 9 votes out of Ga

so toal of 67 votes

[firestar464]

US election debate: what Harris and Trump said about science

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-02945-x

Michael Mann, a climate scientist at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia, says that there is room for growth in Harris’s approach to tackling climate change. In line with the Biden administration, she takes a ‘demand-side approach’ to reducing emissions by incentivizing renewable energy, which is “not enough,” he says. But she at least embraces the scientific consensus and acknowledges the “catastrophic impacts on human health”, while a second term for Trump, who once called climate change a hoax, “would be game over for climate action as we know it”, he says.

[weatheriscool]

Harris +4 (50-46), Harris won debate 56 - 37 (Data For Progress)


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Data for Progress (@DataProgress) on X
NEW POST-DEBATE POLL: In the two-way race for president, 50% of voters choose Harris and 46% choose Trump.

https://t.co/H6ddWnmqzH


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Post-Debate, Harris Leads by 4 as Voters See Her as More Honest, Composed, and Intelligent Than Trump

On Tuesday, September 10, Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump faced off in a presidential debate, hosted by ABC News in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The debate was the first since Harris replaced President Joe Biden at the top of the Democratic ticket following Biden’s poor debate performance in June.

A new Data for Progress survey, fielded in the days following the high-stakes debate, finds Harris up 4 points over Trump in a head-to-head race — with voters seeing her as being more of the “candidate of the future” and more honest, intelligent, and composed than Trump. Furthermore, the survey examines voters’ reactions to the debate, including how an overwhelming majority find Trump’s statement regarding immigrants eating pets to be weird.

[wjfox]

GOP insider predicts major Republican figure to endorse Kamala Harris in 2 to 4 weeks

September 12, 2024

During an appearance on MSNBC's "Way Too Early," GOP campaign consultant Susan Del Percio suggested Vice President Kamala Harris will be on the receiving end of additional endorsements from members of the Republican Party.

In particular, she suggested that a major endorsement could be in the works within two to four weeks that would be a major blow to Donald Trump.

Speaking with host Jonathan Lemire, Del Percio pointed out that she is well aware how precarious it is for any Republican to jump across the aisle considering the former president's rabid base, but that defections could be coming nonetheless.

https://www.rawstory.com/kamala-harris-gop-endorsement/

[Bird]

GOP insider predicts major Republican figure to endorse Kamala Harris in 2 to 4 weeks

September 12, 2024

During an appearance on MSNBC's "Way Too Early," GOP campaign consultant Susan Del Percio suggested Vice President Kamala Harris will be on the receiving end of additional endorsements from members of the Republican Party.

In particular, she suggested that a major endorsement could be in the works within two to four weeks that would be a major blow to Donald Trump.

Speaking with host Jonathan Lemire, Del Percio pointed out that she is well aware how precarious it is for any Republican to jump across the aisle considering the former president's rabid base, but that defections could be coming nonetheless.

https://www.rawstory.com/kamala-harris-gop-endorsement/

George Bush maybe?

[Cyber_Rebel]

^ Thinking more Mitt Romney considering his recent comment concerning Harris's debate performance. Romney might have an actual effect on Utah's voting intentions and other moderate leaning voters in other states.

Of course, nothing is stopping from either endorsing her. I just hope the endorsements end there and don't reflect future policy decisions. If the current GOP actually does implode or splinters (like the Tories and Reform in the UK) I'd hope for a "true" labor style party while Kamala/Walz realigns the "moderates" with the rest of the civilized world. Wishful thinking, but still.

Even an actual business oriented LibDem Party without the overtly pious BS and only concerned with actual libertarian ideals, meaning; legalize weed as a business decision, non-interventionism abroad or in the bedroom, advocating conservatism as conservation of the environment, relentless pursuit of technological progress with market mechanisms, etc. That would be a massive improvement over the current MAGA version of the GOP or whatever were to replace it.

You can have actual economic and policy arguments without the insanity of current.

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[wjfox]

Analysis Shows Trump Loyalists Have 'Infiltrated' Election Boards in Key Swing States

Sep 13, 2024

More than 100 election officials across eight swing states in the U.S. presidential race have engaged in partisan election denial in recent years, raising fears they could try to turn the November result in favor of Republican nominee Donald Trump, according to a report released Friday.

The 88-page report, produced by the Center for Media and Democracy (CMD), details the election denial history of 102 county and state election officials in Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. The authors found that election deniers have majority control of 15 county election boards in those states and of the statewide board in Georgia.

"What was striking to us about our research is how much election denialism and the voter fraud lie have infiltrated and taken over the Republican apparatus in each of these critical states," Arn Pearson, CMD's executive director, toldThe Guardian.

"With 102 deniers on election boards in the swing states, the potential for creating chaos is enormous," Pearson added.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump ... ing-states

[caltrek]

North Carolina, Trafalgar Group (R):
Trump 48, Harris 46
1094 Likely Voters, 2.9 percent Margin of error

Source: https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls (See result for Friday, September 13, 2024)

[firestar464]

Analysis Shows Trump Loyalists Have 'Infiltrated' Election Boards in Key States

https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump ... ing-states

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[caltrek]

Arizona: Trump vs. Harris
Trump 47%, Harris 46%

Arizona U.S. Senate seat: Gallego (D), Lake (R)
Gallego 47%, Lake 43%

Poll taken by Trafalgar Group (R) September 11 -September 12, 2024.
1088 Likely Voters
Margin of Error: 2.9%

Source (see results for Saturday, September 14, 2024): https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls

[caltrek]

Women on TikTok Are Schooling a Trump Ally Who Denied People Are “Bleeding Out” Due to Abortion Bans
by Madison Pauly
September , 2024

Introduction:

(Mother Jones) When Project 2025 staffer and former Trump White House personnel chief John McEntee tried to score points on social media on Thursday by denying that women were “bleeding out” due to abortion bans, he probably didn’t expect them to reply to him directly.

“Can someone track down the women Kamala Harris said are bleeding out in parking lots because Roe v. Wade was overturned?” McEntee asked in a TikTok video filmed at a restaurant as he dipped fried food into sauce.

“Don’t hold your breath,” he added, smirking.

“I’m right here,” replied Carmen Broesder, a mother living in Idaho, which enacted a trigger law after the fall of Roe, a making it a felony for doctors to provide an abortion unless it was necessary “to prevent the death of the pregnant woman.”

In a TikTok video of her own, Broesder recalled how hospital staff turned her away from the ER three times during an excruciating 19-day miscarriage. She said she was repeatedly denied a procedure to remove tissue from the uterus—a procedure known as dilation and curettage (D&C) that is also used in abortions—and that they gave her just one dose of pain medication in 19 days. “I blacked out in my hallway due to blood loss,” she recounted.

Read more here: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2 ... s-debate/

caltrek’s comment: In some fairly recent conversations in the chat room one could encounter an attitude that some felt that the outcome of the election wouldn’t affect them much one way or another. I pointed out that a lot of women felt that way about abortion rights, essentially that those rights were secure and that the political establishment would never take those rights away. The above article illustrates the culmination of that struggle wherein women are finding out the consequences of victories by the extremists to deprive them of their right to an abortion.

It is another illustration of the axiom that while you may not be interested in politics, politics is interested in you. This goes way beyond abortion rights and includes issues such as global climate change, inequality of wealth, clean water and clean air, health care insurance for all, etc. Wake up America.

[caltrek]

Harris’ Embrace of Dick Cheney Was Just One Way She Courted National Security Hawks
by Dan Friedman
September 13, 2024

Introduction:

(Mother Jones) When Vice President Kamala Harris used Tuesday night’s debate to tout her bipartisan appeal, she emphasized the backing she’d received from two particularly notable GOP officials.

“I actually have the endorsement of 200 Republicans,” she said, including “the endorsement of former Vice President Dick Cheney and Congressmember Liz Cheney.”

On its own, Harris welcoming the Cheneys to her tent is no big shakes. Liz’s work on the January 6 committee left her popular with Democrats. Dick is 83, old enough to seem less likely to start a reckless war, and long ago surpassed as a top Democratic bogeyman by Trump himself.

But if the Cheneys are no longer Republican voters, they remain unrepentant hawks, advocates of aggressively using US military power to achieve American policy aims. And Harris’ embrace of a top architect of the disastrous militarism of George W. Bush’s administration was one of several signals she offered suggesting fans of the neoconservative foreign policy associated with the Cheneys should feel comfortable with her as president.

On Gaza, Ukraine, Afghanistan, and other national security matters, Harris appeared to deliberately strike notes aimed at appealing to the interventionist consensus in Washington’s foreign policy establishment. The result was Harris’ latest and perhaps clearest suggestion that she will not venture far to the left of President Joe Biden, or former President Barack Obama, on national security. That may or may not be good politics, but it is a disappointment to the substantial number of Americans hoping that Harris would pursue a more restrained, anti-war foreign policy than Biden.

Read more here: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2 ... d-trump/

caltrek’s comment: Given the excesses of Putin and the Chinese leadership establishment, I have become a little bit more conservative than I used to be. For their part, leaders like Dick Cheney, perhaps due to his daughter’s encouragement, are showing themselves to be more protective of democracy and democratic rights. All of this explains the broad ideological coalition forming in support of Harris. For his part, Trump seems contemptuous of democratic rights (except when exercised exclusively on his behalf) even as he speaks highly of overseas dictators and kleptocrats. Unfortunately, Trump thus appeals to those with a highly isolationist orientation who do not see themselves as supporting the Ukraine, Taiwan, etc. Another reason why this election may end up being so pivotal.

[weatheriscool]

I'll be shocked if he doesn't lose by at least as much popular vote wise as he did in 2020. It should be at least 6% or more but we will see of course. The population of this country seems to be going fascist and we may enter some scary fucking times.