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Reading the Ketan Joshi article
Turns out climate activists have consistent ideologies, who knew
Definitely true, and I have a lot more respect for these people than say, grandstanding internet users. Huge difference between politely saying "Data centers are bad and we should severely regulate them and consider a moratorium" and "anyone who queries chatgpt should KILL THEMSELVES!!!" (1.1k likes) while having eaten a fucking burger yesterday

There is also no denying that the exponential growth from data centers is concerning and must be stemmed, one way or the other. I just think that treating data centers as the ONLY source of emissions risks overshadowing the need for emissions reductions in many other areas. Yes, I understand that this is not an either/or, and that an argument could be made for focusing on data centers to stem a rapidly-growing new source of pollution before it becomes entrenched in our society like the others. However, I don't think people online are this nuanced either.

Noteworthy admission on the author's part:
Let’s very conservatively assume only 15% of Google’s 2025 energy consumption was for AI. The company would have to receive 74.6 billion prompts a day, according to the 0.24 watt hour number above, to explain their energy hunger. ChatGPT, which is several times more popular than Google Gemini, claimed to receive 2.5bn prompts a day, in 2025.

If we assume 25% of their 2025 energy was generative AI, they’d need 124bn a day to explain the energy consumption. If 50%, they’d need 248bn (every single human being alive, including babies, sending 30 Gemini prompts per day).

Obviously, this is not happening. What is happening is that GenAI’s climate harm comes from the system design, such as Google’s AI overview triggering constantly whether users want it or not, in addition to significantly worse digital bloat tools dominating overconsumption.
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https://reason.com/2026/07/20/trumps-18 ... are-up-18/

Also interesting are the solutions to the energy use of data centers outlined at the bottom of the article. Frankly, solutions like this should be mandated by law. Not a single ounce of burden ought to be shouldered by ordinary people.
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He could be be mandating all datacenters to have solar roofs and the tech industry could be forced to build solar fields to make up the difference. This is something I'd support. Trump is hurting the tech industry in the mid to long term by being anti-green energy.

A.i is important for the future of humanity but also cheap electric and being kind to the poor is too.
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Trump is Blocking Billions of Dollars of Grants that Would Fix the Grid
By Jeff St. John
August 6, 2026

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(Canary Media) In Wisconsin, utility Alliant Energy has called off a project meant to reduce power outages in disadvantaged and tribal communities, after the Trump administration terminated a federal grant that would have supported it.

In California, the Sacramento Municipal Utility District, which has deployed and upgraded hundreds of thousands of advanced smart meters, has not received any reimbursement from the U.S. Department of Energy, or DOE, for the work since October, when the Trump administration declared it was killing grants that it described as fueling “the Left’s climate agenda.”

And in the upper Midwest, a consortium of regional grid operators, utilities, and state agencies is still waiting for $464 million in DOE funds meant to help build high-voltage transmission lines to reduce grid congestion — although the agency in charge of the project says the funding will soon be restored.

Across the country, hundreds of such projects to improve grid reliability and make electricity more affordable face a highly uncertain future — the result of Trump administration actions that have slowed the outflow of billions of dollars of DOE funds to a trickle.

Some of those projects in “blue states” were targeted as political retribution, as recent reporting from The New York Times has made clear. A handful of grant awardees in this category have won favorable court rulings, and more are seeking legal redress.
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This is why we cannot have new fossil fuel projects and why it should be forbidden to power data centers with even a tiny bit of fossil fuel energy.
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Clean air policies linked to improved cognition among New York City children

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Human activity is pushing lakes beyond their natural carbon limits

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